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Do you ever think seeing players of that calibre at Fratton Park and the memories from that era were worth the downfall?
I think most fans would say "yes". The collapse has been painful but those seven seasons eating at the top table were pretty great. We suffered plenty of batterings but also plenty of unlikely, famous wins. E.g. the crazy (and extremely lucky) FA Cup quarter-final win at Old Trafford, beating the team that would go on to win the Champions League that year. We came out of that match suddenly as favourites to win the Cup. And then we went and actually did it!

We may never reach the Prem again, so it's great to have those memories.
 

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I think you should enjoy those days at the top - I used to work with a Birmingham fan and they were relegated the same season they won the Carling Cup. He went to the final, and then went to their away Europa League games. I asked him what was better a couple of years back - struggling in the Prem for another couple of years, or winning the Carling Cup and going down. You can guess what his answer was.

As football fans, especially lower league ones, we have far more downs than ups, so we have to appreciate the ups when we get them. Cheltenham are struggling at the moment, but I won't forget that on Tuesday night we play Bolton at home and not Baldock!!
 

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As a Wednesday fan spending 20 odd years outside the top flight I still consider myself fortunate to be old enough to remember my team actually be decent.

At 10 year old I watched us, then a 2nd tier club and about to get promoted, win the League Cup against Manchester United, we followed that up the next couple of years with finishing 3rd best in the country and bottling 2 Cup finals in the inaugural season of the PL where we finished 7th as the games stacked up.

I got to be a ball boy at a UEFA cup game as well, the only blip was the European ban cost us a couple of other seasons in it.

The kids following us nowadays have only seen us being shit.
 

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Anyway onto the match at Vale.

Didn't realise how bad our record against is against Vale and at Vale Park, just the one win in the last 7 visits, granted it was our last league trip there.

Will be a tough game against a side who have adapted well following promotion but we have to win these games if we want to be up there come May time.

We follow this with a lovely midweek jaunt to Plymouth.
 

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Really looking forward to the visit of Wednesday, even though its odds on that we will probably lose. It's games like these that we fought so hard for last season, and Im under no illusion that this season will be a challenge for us.

The difference in having over 3.5k coming from Sheffield instead of 100 from Stevenage just helps the atmosphere so much.
 

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Really looking forward to the visit of Wednesday, even though its odds on that we will probably lose. It's games like these that we fought so hard for last season, and Im under no illusion that this season will be a challenge for us.

The difference in having over 3.5k coming from Sheffield instead of 100 from Stevenage just helps the atmosphere so much.
These are the games we should relish and as you say when we are playing in front of 100 away fans and have 4000 rattling around VP in the arse end of league two seemed so far away.

It is a degree of a "Free hit" no one will expect us to win and I am sure Wednesday will expect to turn up and take the points so nothing to lose, should be a cracking atmosphere as well, usually in the past when a side like Wednesday have come down we've had 4-5000 homes fans in the place and it should be good to see it with 7-8000 Vale fans and a full end away actually generating the atmosphere it should.

Would have been better if we had the Hamil as a home end still as we saw against Swindon and one of the reasons the move is good is that currently the away end has the best acoustics.

As long as we put in a shift and give it a good go I will be happy, ultimately apart from us maybe having a better manager everything else is in Wednesday's favour tomorrow in terms of advantages so see how it goes.

These are not the games that will determine our season so if we lose meh, if we draw it will be an excellent point and if we win it will be a massive boost confidence wise. At home on our day we are capable but will be extremely tough and we would have to get most things spot on.
 

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Derby at home where the 2 best managers in the lge go head to head, 3 tough, competitive games last year v Rotherham and I’m expecting a tough game tomorrow.

I was more confident when rosenior was in charge, I fancied our high press against derby’s passing back line but now warne is in charge and knowing how he likes his teams to play it’s made me think otherwise.

Derby should get 3pts no worries but bonner will certainly get us up for this, just a case of whether derby’s quality shines through.

We’re desperately lacking at lb and are missing iredale big time, dunk has been a fantastic servant but gets found out all to often at this level, haven’t seen enough of haunstrop to form an opinion yet.

KTF
 

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A couple of additional injuries since our last league game.

Bishop went off injured a couple of games ago and is out for a few weeks, but the lesser spotted Danny Mandroui was back in full training on Monday, so perhaps he'll make the squad. No Joe Walsh, Lewis Montsma Jay Benn or Jacob Davenport either.

There's probably a couple of decisions for Kennedy to make - Sanders of Oakley Boothe to place Bishop and House or Hopper up front.

We'll probably need the front three to score at least two to take anything from the game!
 

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Tommy taylor was Duncan Edwards

absolutley
I have a scrapbook which has cuttings from the Munich Air Disaster and is utterly priceless.Many years ago I visited the church in Dudley which has a stained glass window commemorating Duncan Edwards and is beautiful
 

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I have a scrapbook which has cuttings from the Munich Air Disaster and is utterly priceless.Many years ago I visited the church in Dudley which has a stained glass window commemorating Duncan Edwards and is beautiful
Duncan Edwards was signing for Bolton until Busby stepped in and offered him a chance to join Utd
My old fella told me he not Bobby Moore would have picked the world cup up in 66 if he had lived and possibly in 62

We got the second best centre half Dudley have produced nearly 20 years later when Big Sam joined us,,,,,,the rest is history
 

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Duncan Edwards was signing for Bolton until Busby stepped in and offered him a chance to join Utd
My old fella told me he not Bobby Moore would have picked the world cup up in 66 if he had lived and possibly in 62

We got the second best centre half Dudley have produced nearly 20 years later when Big Sam joined us,,,,,,the rest is history
It was a huge tragedy that robbed football of some incredibly talented players.
 

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On a side note... avoid a penalty tomorrow we can break the record equalled last week in British football for games without being awarded a penalty!
 

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Is that official?
Does it need to be official? There’s plenty of unsubstantiated claims made on this forum which are purported to be the truth. The only thing Arbury did wrong was not put “FACT” at the end of his statement to ensure its validity couldn’t go questioned.
 

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Bit of a free hit for us, as others have said. Atmosphere should be good. Lots of opposition managers talk about the hostile atmosphere at Vale Park, so let's hope we get into the game before conceding. For the first time in a while, we've got players that can actually change things from the bench, so if we stay level for as long as possible then you never know.

As I've said previously, this is division 3 football, so even those with the mega bucks won't be Brazil 1970, they will have mistakes in them and I understand they are shaky at the back if you get at them.
 

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Bit of a free hit for us, as others have said. Atmosphere should be good. Lots of opposition managers talk about the hostile atmosphere at Vale Park, so let's hope we get into the game before conceding. For the first time in a while, we've got players that can actually change things from the bench, so if we stay level for as long as possible then you never know.

As I've said previously, this is division 3 football, so even those with the mega bucks won't be Brazil 1970, they will have mistakes in them and I understand they are shaky at the back if you get at them.
Not sure if they still are but recall these struggled with crosses early season so would be looking maybe at Woz over Massey? Try and get balls into Harrison as our best hope… that said the other end is the difficulty! Do we bring Hall out from the cold on this and hope it’s pushed him to sort himself out?
 

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As always, i havent the foggiest on the game. Get to this point on a Friday and i start feeling optimistic, only for the game to begin and reality to hit. Bolton should be far too much for us. Will be interesting to see our line up, hopefully see a few additions on the bench, such as Mandriou etc.
 

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As always, i havent the foggiest on the game. Get to this point on a Friday and i start feeling optimistic, only for the game to begin and reality to hit. Bolton should be far too much for us. Will be interesting to see our line up, hopefully see a few additions on the bench, such as Mandriou etc.
Monsoon currently here. Doubt it will effect the game but may make it heavy going and even things out
 

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Duncan Edwards was signing for Bolton until Busby stepped in and offered him a chance to join Utd
My old fella told me he not Bobby Moore would have picked the world cup up in 66 if he had lived and possibly in 62

We got the second best centre half Dudley have produced nearly 20 years later when Big Sam joined us,,,,,,the rest is history
Nice one mate, I have no doubt that Big Dunc would have been at the very top for
years and records would have been broken which would still be standing today
 

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I remember us last playing Burton back in 09, when Nigel Clough and Jim Harvey were in charge at both clubs. Pretty sure the quality of football on show back then will be better then what’s on show tomorrow, even though this is supposedly two divisions higher.
 

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I remember us last playing Burton back in 09, when Nigel Clough and Jim Harvey were in charge at both clubs. Pretty sure the quality of football on show back then will be better then what’s on show tomorrow, even though this is supposedly two divisions higher.
Thank fuck it’s not raining and windy. Then it would be even worse then it will be.
 

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I remember us last playing Burton back in 09, when Nigel Clough and Jim Harvey were in charge at both clubs. Pretty sure the quality of football on show back then will be better then what’s on show tomorrow, even though this is supposedly two divisions higher.
I still rate the football we played under Harvey as the most entertaining I have seen since I started following Rovers...which admittedly wasn't too long before he joined...at least when Fleets had the ball at his feet there was anticipation that he might score, now I worry about where our next goal might come from!
 

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Barton has done our pre match team talk, calling us a grubby little club in the arse end of nowhere that no player wants to go to.
If only we were a big city club like Rovers playing in a magnificent stadium.
 

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Barton has done our pre match team talk, calling us a grubby little club in the arse end of nowhere that no player wants to go to.
If only we were a big city club like Rovers playing in a magnificent stadium.

I genuinely don’t know why he keeps doing that kind of stuff. Just makes a rod for his own back especially with how their results have gone so far. It came right for him last season but then he had the ultimate L2 cheat code in Elliott Anderson which won’t be the case this time.
 

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Barton has done our pre match team talk, calling us a grubby little club in the arse end of nowhere that no player wants to go to.
If only we were a big city club like Rovers playing in a magnificent stadium.
I hate Barton as much as the next man but he’s pretty bang on in his assessment if you ask me.

KTF
 
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