The Atheism Mega-Thread

Ian_Wrexham

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 5, 2015
Messages
567
Reaction score
736
Points
93
Supports
Comrade Lineker's Revolutionary Junta

The Paranoid Pineapple

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
1,797
Reaction score
1,741
Points
113
Location
Guildford, Surrey
Supports
mighty, mighty Ks
Three people who happen to be Muslim shot dead for unspecified reasons by a man who happens to be an atheist in a crime where no motive has yet been established

Bit of a weird thread tbh
 
Last edited:

RavenBish

Antihero
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
4,332
Reaction score
1,542
Points
113
Supports
Shola Ameobi's Notts County
Weird how the media aren't jumping to conclusions when it's a white atheist.
 

Ian_Wrexham

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 5, 2015
Messages
567
Reaction score
736
Points
93
Supports
Comrade Lineker's Revolutionary Junta
Three people who happen to be Muslim shot dead for unspecified reasons by a man who happens to be an atheist in a crime where no motive has yet been provided

Bit of a weird thread tbh

A man who reveres a load of people who preach violence against and intolerance towards Muslims murders three Muslim students in his town.

Hard to believe this guy's religion wasn't a factor.
 

HertsWolf

Site Supporter
Site Supporter
Joined
Jan 19, 2015
Messages
3,557
Reaction score
2,131
Points
113
Location
Hampshire and Ethiopia
Supports
Wolves
Is it not time to tap the phones, emails, letters and internet of every non-atheist? And search their bins. Like millions of other people, I'm heartily fed up with these ...um... non-religious extremists.
 

silkyman

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 20, 2015
Messages
4,099
Reaction score
1,068
Points
113
Supports
Macclesfield Town/Manchester City. It's complicated.
A man who reveres a load of people who preach violence against and intolerance towards Muslims murders three Muslim students in his town.

Hard to believe this guy's religion wasn't a factor.

Reveres who?

And atheism isn't a religion.
 

silkyman

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 20, 2015
Messages
4,099
Reaction score
1,068
Points
113
Supports
Macclesfield Town/Manchester City. It's complicated.
Weird how the media aren't jumping to conclusions when it's a white atheist.

That's good old fasioned american racism. The country probably distrusts atheists almost as much as muslims.
 

Jockney

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
2,969
Reaction score
1,552
Points
113
Supports
Fred Onyedinma
I was in Chapel Hill for a fair bit this Summer. It's a leafy, relatively progressive, mostly residential, student town at the arse-end of Durham. The commercial areas consist of two or three blocks, unified by a main street that is no longer than half a mile. Politics are divided but mild by national standards. In fact, modern-day North Carolina is politically analagous to states like Wisconsin or New Hampshire. The site of the famous Greensboro sit-ins (and, a couple decades after, rather more infamously, massacre) is only a few miles up the road, but the post-war generation are mild-mannered pragmatic. It isn't Virginia or some bumblefuck, git er dun parochial shithole. Speaking to a few of my friends who are still over there, everyone on campus is really shaken up about it. People want to help, but understandably details are still scarce at this stage.
 

silkyman

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 20, 2015
Messages
4,099
Reaction score
1,068
Points
113
Supports
Macclesfield Town/Manchester City. It's complicated.
That's good old fasioned american racism. The country probably distrusts atheists almost as much as muslims.

More so possibly. It's technically illegal for atheists to hold public office in several states, and there are no openly atheist people in government because it's so disapproved of. So, no. This isn't some establishment protection of atheism.
 

Arkan

Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2015
Messages
114
Reaction score
18
Points
18
Location
Liverpool
Supports
Everton
I'm currently reading The God Delusion. Been enjoying it so far even if it is a bit condescending.
 

silkyman

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 20, 2015
Messages
4,099
Reaction score
1,068
Points
113
Supports
Macclesfield Town/Manchester City. It's complicated.
If atheism isn't a religion, why are there atheist churches?

It's not a religion because religion is by definition the belief in a supernatural being.
 

Aberstone

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
3,033
Reaction score
1,399
Points
113
Location
Luton
Supports
Wealdstone
At least that article above isn't afraid to point out that this atheist church is a business, much like every other religion.

I only found about these shootings through Twitter this morning, double standards from the media not reporting what could be construed as a terrorist attack (although unlikely as this bloke seems to be a lone wolf) and further demonstrates 'white privilege'.
 

Ebeneezer Goode

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
3,657
Reaction score
1,541
Points
113
Supports
England
Shouldn't it be anti-theist mega thread? Atheism isn't an ideology, it's an absence of a particular type of one.
 

SALTIRE

Slàinte mhath!
Joined
Jan 20, 2015
Messages
14,542
Reaction score
3,032
Points
113
Location
Speyside
Supports
A guid dram
I'm currently reading The God Delusion. Been enjoying it so far even if it is a bit condescending.
I haven't read it and quite like Dawkins views for the most part, but he does sledgehammer opposite opinions occasionally making him a very abrasive figure.
 

silkyman

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 20, 2015
Messages
4,099
Reaction score
1,068
Points
113
Supports
Macclesfield Town/Manchester City. It's complicated.
At least that article above isn't afraid to point out that this atheist church is a business, much like every other religion.

I only found about these shootings through Twitter this morning, double standards from the media not reporting what could be construed as a terrorist attack (although unlikely as this bloke seems to be a lone wolf) and further demonstrates 'white privilege'.

Americans shoot Americans all the time. People are comparing it to the Charlie Hebdo killings but that's nonsense. That was a targeted, planned attack, killing people who have publically 'insulted Islam' and by people shouting about revenge for Allah and, nominally at least, in the name of the ideology of their religion. There is no atheist ideology. Just people who don't happen to believe in God.
 

silkyman

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 20, 2015
Messages
4,099
Reaction score
1,068
Points
113
Supports
Macclesfield Town/Manchester City. It's complicated.
I haven't read it and quite like Dawkins views for the most part, but he does sledgehammer opposite opinions occasionally making him a very abrasive figure.

Did the video of Dawkins reading out hate mail get done on here?
 

Ebeneezer Goode

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
3,657
Reaction score
1,541
Points
113
Supports
England
Weird how the media aren't jumping to conclusions when it's a white atheist.

Everyone jumps to conclusions to be fair. I remember when that elderly Muslim guy got murdered close to the mosque that had "devices" placed outside it, and everyone on TFF said that it was obviously an EDL member as they were operating in the area... then it turned out to be a random immigrant that did it.
 

The Paranoid Pineapple

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
1,797
Reaction score
1,741
Points
113
Location
Guildford, Surrey
Supports
mighty, mighty Ks
Religious extremists committing acts of terrorism are rarely shy about their motivations so it's usually less about the media "jumping to conclusions", and more that there's pretty damning evidence to suggest that an act of religiously motivated terrorism has been committed.

On the bare facts of the case this simply can't be construed as an act of terrorism.
 

Ian_Wrexham

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 5, 2015
Messages
567
Reaction score
736
Points
93
Supports
Comrade Lineker's Revolutionary Junta
Everyone jumps to conclusions to be fair. I remember when that elderly Muslim guy got murdered close to the mosque that had "devices" placed outside it, and everyone on TFF said that it was obviously an EDL member as they were operating in the area... then it turned out to be a random immigrant that did it.
'Turned out to be a white supremacist' you mean. I'm not sure it's relevant where racists come from unless you're trying to defend English racists.
 

Ian_Wrexham

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 5, 2015
Messages
567
Reaction score
736
Points
93
Supports
Comrade Lineker's Revolutionary Junta
Shouldn't it be anti-theist mega thread? Atheism isn't an ideology, it's an absence of a particular type of one.
Atheism is a religion characterised by the belief that Richard Dawkins isn't a racist.
 

silkyman

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 20, 2015
Messages
4,099
Reaction score
1,068
Points
113
Supports
Macclesfield Town/Manchester City. It's complicated.
Erm? That post makes you sound like, well, you're slightly insane.
 

Ebeneezer Goode

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
3,657
Reaction score
1,541
Points
113
Supports
England
'Turned out to be a white supremacist' you mean. I'm not sure it's relevant where racists come from unless you're trying to defend English racists.

There's a degree of irony to the pro-immigration crowd blaming the EDL for something that turned out to be an immigrant. It was worth poking fun at.

Interesting that you identified him by his ideology though. Will be interesting to see if that standard is maintained in future.
 

Stagat

#stagat
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
2,133
Reaction score
1,949
Points
113
Supports
Mansfield
From the BBC

The wife of the man accused of killing three Muslim students said the attack was motivated by parking, not religion.

Karen Hicks said she was "shocked" by the attack but said her husband Craig, 46, had parking disputes with many neighbours, of all religions.

I think, as a people, we've gone wrong somewhere.
 

Ebeneezer Goode

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
3,657
Reaction score
1,541
Points
113
Supports
England
Well I for one am on the edge of my seat waiting for Red to come in here and put Ian in his place.






















il1jaw.gif
 

Forum statistics

Threads
15,750
Messages
1,048,025
Members
6,256
Latest member
1932
Top