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This is the key bit. It might work but in my opinion it's certainly not going to in the short term so is effectively writing off this season. It's going to take him a while to adapt to being a full-time manager and to adjust his coaching sessions for fulltime. Difference is huge. Think Warnock if he was willing would have been the better appointment and a sign of owners being pragmatic rather than philosophical. Get Warnock for 12-18 months, probably get you promoted and suddenly you have a dirge of options at league 1 level who can play a similar brand of football as Williamson - hopefully with better defending.

Williamson would have been perfect for them but MK Dons have got in there earlier.
Agree with the pragmatism/idealism stuff to a degree but it's just a different risk, if someone comes in and changes the way the owners want to do things then they absolutely have to succeed otherwise it just sets them back with what they want to do. And then if you want to get your preferred candidate in, you're changing philosophies again.

No doubt Williamson would have been top of the list a couple of months ago.
 

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That's ok.

I just don't see Artell getting Grimsby promoted during his time there. I could of course be wrong but that's my prediction.

With Alexander and Flynn I think a L2 club knows what they are getting, and I don't want that. That was my point, I don't want the albeit less risky known product.
It’s not a given though. When we appointed Wellens, his previous was really poor - got us promoted. Then managed Salford and Donny and got sacked from both. Rocks up at Orient and gets them promoted and doing nicely now in L1.
 

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If course. Nothing in football or appointing football managers is a given. Some managers suit certain clubs and not others, others don't have a chance due to off field issues as we all know.

I strongly believe a Flynn or Alexander for example would be a bad fit for Notts at this time, we know what we would be getting and it goes against the owners direction for the club. A Williamson would have been a good fit.

I am happy that the approach and ethos remains the same , and it is the head coaches that have to fit that system, not the other way around.

Over the years I've seen that far too often where we lurch from one appointment too quickly to the next and the two managerial /football styles conflict. Then we wonder if didn't work :ffs:

Continuity is key.
 

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MK Dons away for us - on paper it should be a decent game with 7th v 8th but I expect it'll be a bit of a dirge. Would probably be alright with a point.
I’m hoping for a decent response after Saturdays piss poor showing.
 

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It’s not a given though. When we appointed Wellens, his previous was really poor - got us promoted. Then managed Salford and Donny and got sacked from both. Rocks up at Orient and gets them promoted and doing nicely now in L1.
Wellens wasn’t backed by our chairman of the time but I still feel he was the wrong appointment for us
 

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With another storm hitting on Tuesday, I'm not optimistic that the game will be on due to the weather being like this
 

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If we're serious about automatic promotion then we have to be winning both these games this week to put pressure on the sides above us. No good winning at Mansfield and Barrow to then be satisfied with taking a point at Morecambe before a ball is kicked.

I'm not sure tomorrow will be on anyway because of the weather. But Salford on Saturday is a must win. I want to absolutely thrash them given the nature of the controversial reverse fixture and the fact their new manager gives Gary Neville a run for his money in the odious stakes.
 

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If we're serious about automatic promotion then we have to be winning both these games this week to put pressure on the sides above us. No good winning at Mansfield and Barrow to then be satisfied with taking a point at Morecambe before a ball is kicked.

I'm not sure tomorrow will be on anyway because of the weather. But Salford on Saturday is a must win. I want to absolutely thrash them given the nature of the controversial reverse fixture and the fact their new manager gives Gary Neville a run for his money in the odious stakes.
I like Gary Neville due to his political stance. Robinson has no redeeming features at all. File under arsehole. Robinson will get a hostile reception when Salford visit us later on in the season and the ground staff member which he tried to get banned is still in situ.
 

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Likewise. We're on damage limitation until Omar and Ali return from international duty. I'm keeping an eye on the Asia Cup and hoping that Lebanon and Iraq fail to get through. Likely for Lebanon but Iraq are good enough to get all the way to the final.

Not expecting much from either match in the coming week unless the newbies turn up trumps.
Lebanon fail to qualify so Omar is back.
Probably too soon for tomorrow but definitely back for Saturday.
 

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If we're serious about automatic promotion then we have to be winning both these games this week to put pressure on the sides above us. No good winning at Mansfield and Barrow to then be satisfied with taking a point at Morecambe before a ball is kicked.

I'm not sure tomorrow will be on anyway because of the weather. But Salford on Saturday is a must win. I want to absolutely thrash them given the nature of the controversial reverse fixture and the fact their new manager gives Gary Neville a run for his money in the odious stakes.
the chances of that is high but who'd thought the 2nd re-arranged game might be off
 

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the chances of that is high but who'd thought the 2nd re-arranged game might be off

In fairness our game with Grimsby last season had 3 postponements before it was finally played towards the end of the season! The Queen's passing, a ridiculous rearrangement to accommodate a Pizza Trophy match and Grimsby making the 5th round of the FA Cup were the reasons. It wasn't even down to internationals or weather!
 

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I like Gary Neville due to his political stance. Robinson has no redeeming features at all. File under arsehole. Robinson will get a hostile reception when Salford visit us later on in the season and the ground staff member which he tried to get banned is still in situ.

As a lad growing up in the North West with a significant disdain for that Manchester United team I'll never warm to Neville. There are many lads just like me.

The way Robinson treated Dan Agyei and the stories I've heard from Oxford fans are my reasons for truly despising him. Dan was a fine player for us and an all round good egg. Robinson a total bully who should be out of football at the earliest available opportunity.
 

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I like Gary Neville due to his political stance. Robinson has no redeeming features at all. File under arsehole. Robinson will get a hostile reception when Salford visit us later on in the season and the ground staff member which he tried to get banned is still in situ.
Neville is one of the biggest hypocrites out there I'm afraid.
 

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Tuesday night games -
Bradford vs salford
mansfield vs sutton
Franchise vs proper wimbledon
Morecambe vs Crewe

Not the best weather around (still time for us to be called off again yet!) but looks like will have cleared by the evening.

As for us, i imagine sutton will come and sit back, which is what we struggle against, so will be interesting. Need the win after a little dip in form.
 

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May be a free for all with the wind to be fair.
 

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Unsurprisingly our game at Morecambe has been postponed due to waterlogged pitch. With the winds that are expected later its probably for the best, could have been abit of a farce.
 

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That sure is news to me! Thankfully they've seen the light and you can't disagree with some of the stuff said there.

There seems to be an air of he's bitten more off than he can chew regarding Salford though. I genuinely think he thought progression up the leagues would be easy but he's soon found out that that isn't the case. Makes you think how long till he pulls the plug because if they become stagnant he'll lose interest very quickly.
 

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All my United mates despise him since he's gone on SKY. Every single one sees through the Salford thing for what it is too.
 

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Salford at home tonight. Pitch looks shit and the team has some more than questionable inclusions. Think we get done here
 

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MK are an outside shout for the autos I think. If they weren't laboured with Alexander to start the season they'd have been right up there.
 

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MK are an outside shout for the autos I think. If they weren't laboured with Alexander to start the season they'd have been right up there.
I think they are right in the mix. Stronger squad than the others in the playoffs at the moment as well.
 

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So so bad. MK Dons fans were right about this dinosaur Alexander - he won't last long here.
 

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That’s gotta be a very painful night for Wimbledon fans there.
 

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Davison goes off and Wimbledon score. SHOCK.
 

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So so bad. MK Dons fans were right about this dinosaur Alexander - he won't last long here.

Wasn't just MK Dons fans. Bradford have had a few dinosaurs in charge on recent years, so kinda fits. Bowyer? Hughes? Or is that being unkind to either?
 

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