Welcome Burton Albion

[JoshBCFC]

Our chairman has stated the intention to expand the away end, adding a second tier which should significantly increase the current 1800 away ticket allocation. Additionally, some temporary seating in the corners.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03ttzv9

So Burton will probably end up with a bigger away allocation than us

 

[THE TERRACEMAN]

Just when you thought it couldn't get any better, it amazingly does.
A massive well done to the sheep this afternoon in losing 3-0 to Hull in the first leg of the play off semi-final. My phone has been in meltdown with comments from fellow Brewers.
With the greatest respect to all the other teams in the championship next season, the two games against our neighbours up the road in Derbyshire will be the biggest and most eagerly anticipated by the Albion faithful.
Absolute bliss !

 

[Dayman]

If I'm honest I wanted Derby to go up. I've got no affinity for them whatsoever but the thought of the circus that's going to surround our two games doesn't even bear thinking about.

 

[THE TERRACEMAN]

If I'm honest I wanted Derby to go up. I've got no affinity for them whatsoever but the thought of the circus that's going to surround our two games doesn't even bear thinking about.

I've waited nearly 50 years to play the sheep in a competitive match so i'm ecstatic we will be doing just that next season.

 

[Dayman]

I've waited nearly 50 years to play the sheep in a competitive match so i'm ecstatic we will be doing just that next season.

Fair do's.

As I said I've got no affinity for them but I know a lot of people like you who have wanted us to play them competitively for donkeys years. At the same time most of the people I stand with are like me and aren't really bothered either way. I wouldn't be so arrogant as to say "it's just another game" because undoubtedly it's a big deal for us and certainly the Burton area but the likes of Newcastle and Villa are just as big for me. I suppose ultimately it's a generational thing. I do think the whole "most Burton fans are also Derby fans" is massively overstated though. What I'm dreading is the huge "love in" mainly with the older generation on both sides and I'm sure the Radio Derby commentary team will all wank themselves into a frenzy during the entire week building up to both games.

Derby aren't out of it yet though. Massive hill to climb but this is football after all...must remember that!

 

[NorthernSoul]

Clough will want to keep him as he's settled in well here. I'm not entirely convinced myself that he's good enough for the championship but we're not exactly in a position where we can reject players we already know we've got a chance of getting in search of better ones and I'm not a football manager either so what do I know. Saying that Wigan are apparently interested since he's now out of contract. I'd imagine they'll offer him considerably more money than we afford to pay him and he'll be closer to home up there so we'll see.

Haven't heard anything from our end, plus he doesn't fit into our recruitment strategy being 30 years old, we'd only sign a stand out proven player at this level at that age, such as Stephen Warnock probably signing permanently. Given that we already have 5 attacking midfielders/wingers all under the age of 24, I don't think it's a position we'll look at this Summer. So I think you'll see Duffy back at Burton this Summer.

 

[Ciderup]

This extension to the away end at Burton, does it entail a temporary (a la Blackpool / Bournemouth) stand behind the existing one and removal of the current roof? That's an awfully big job to do in 12 weeks isn't it?

 

[LoveSlug]

That's a crazy good achievement and one that should be getting more mainstream attention than it currently is. Well done Burton!!

 

[M Dogg]

Is there any way that the Derby Burton match will be anything other than a good day out for both fans? I.e. Could there be trouble? I know Burton fairly well and you can see how messy it could get if Derby take thousands and trouble breaks out. It's not equipped for massive followings.

 

[Nook Terrier]

Are there any players Burton might struggle to keep onto?

 

[THE TERRACEMAN]

This extension to the away end at Burton, does it entail a temporary (a la Blackpool / Bournemouth) stand behind the existing one and removal of the current roof? That's an awfully big job to do in 12 weeks isn't it?

Forgive the pun ciderup but "nothing concrete yet" !
Seriously no details announced yet but having listened to the chairman on the radio then something along those lines would not surprise me.

 

[THE TERRACEMAN]

Are there any players Burton might struggle to keep onto?

Only one I think, JFH at QPR is rumoured to be interested in our left back Damian McCrory.

 

[Madejski]

Would be nice to see Stuart Beavon play at the Madejski.

 

[THE TERRACEMAN]

Would be nice to see Stuart Beavon play at the Madejski.

Against you rather than for you I hope !

 

[Dayman]

Is there any way that the Derby Burton match will be anything other than a good day out for both fans? I.e. Could there be trouble? I know Burton fairly well and you can see how messy it could get if Derby take thousands and trouble breaks out. It's not equipped for massive followings.

I think a good day out is exactly what proper supporters of both sides will want and hopefully that's what we'll get. Unfortunately we're likely to have some knobheads attach themselves to us for the bigger games but if I know our lot it's our supporters that will shut them down quicker than anyone else. We like our football without any of the bollocks that comes with it these days and we'll try and keep it that way.

No we're not equipped for massive followings but that's for Ben Robinson to sort out over the summer and I'm sure he'll come up with something that works. We started a supporter database for buying tickets last season and all our home games will be all ticket so hopefully we that's something that can be worked with.

 

[TomPNE94]

Against you rather than for you I hope !

He isn't good enough to play at this level.

 

[Liam_SWFC]

It's a fantastic achievment for Burton Albion to be at this level, I'd say this is even more ridicolous than when Yeovil were here. Looking at their squad they don't seem to have any players that stand out to you as being able to perform at this level, the likes of Damien McCrory and Lukas Akins have been good players in League One for a few years but can they step up? Recruitment is going to be so important for Burton, they have to recruit smartly so even if they do get relegated they would still have a competitive side in League One.

 

[THE TERRACEMAN]

It's a fantastic achievment for Burton Albion to be at this level, I'd say this is even more ridicolous than when Yeovil were here. Looking at their squad they don't seem to have any players that stand out to you as being able to perform at this level, the likes of Damien McCrory and Lukas Akins have been good players in League One for a few years but can they step up? Recruitment is going to be so important for Burton, they have to recruit smartly so even if they do get relegated they would still have a competitive side in League One.

Have to agree with you, the secret has been getting them to play in a team format for each other. Recruitment is going to be vital and although Nigel Clough has his doubters I will trust him to get the players in to make us competitive. I may not always agree with him but his record at BAFC has been exceptional.

 

[Liam_SWFC]

Have to agree with you, the secret has been getting them to play in a team format for each other. Recruitment is going to be vital and although Nigel Clough has his doubters I will trust him to get the players in to make us competitive. I may not always agree with him but his record at BAFC has been exceptional.

I think if you can look to sign some good young players with potential from the leagues below, and some experienced pros on free transfers you could have a chance. The loan market will be huge for you as well especially with you having such a small budget.

 

[THE TERRACEMAN]

I think if you can look to sign some good young players with potential from the leagues below, and some experienced pros on free transfers you could have a chance. The loan market will be huge for you as well especially with you having such a small budget.

That's exactly how I see it Liam. Will be like the 3rd round of the FA Cup for 46 matches for us next season !

 

[Kilburn Ram]

[QUOTE="THE TERRACEMAN]
Recruitment is going to be vital and although Nigel Clough has his doubters I will trust him to get the players in to make us competitive.[/QUOTE]

You won't have anything to worry about. Clough will give you mid table mediocrity for years to come. He specialises in it.

 

[Dayman]

[QUOTE="THE TERRACEMAN]
Recruitment is going to be vital and although Nigel Clough has his doubters I will trust him to get the players in to make us competitive.

You won't have anything to worry about. Clough will give you mid table mediocrity for years to come. He specialises in it.[/QUOTE]

With a club that has the resources fit for this league, yes. The thing is while the more level headed amongst us appreciate how much our budget will be dwarfed by 95% of the league our flat earth contingent think we'll be signing Darren Bent, Adam Le Fondre and Chris Burke. The reality is we'll sign players you've never heard of who never played for and in turn were rejected by championship clubs because it's all we can afford. I haven't got a problem with that because I don't want us to spunk money up the wall that we haven't got.

Clough is on a hiding to nothing this season and I'm fairly sure of two things. We'll get relegated and Clough will get dogs abuse for it.

 

[gazbrewer]

[QUOTE="Kilburn Ram, post: 413403, member: 831"
You won't have anything to worry about. Clough will give you mid table mediocrity for years to come. He specialises in it.[/QUOTE]
With the exception of one season (2011) Clough has never taken a club backwards in his career spanning 18 years. If we'd have lost patience in the same way as Derby, we'd still be in the conference (it took 7 years), it took 3 years to get up to the conference in the first place.
At Derby in his first season 2009/10 he more than halved the wage bill, yet still managed to finish with 2 more points, an incredible feat IMO. The fact is, had you kept faith with him and supported him, you'd be playing premier league football by now.
He gets a rough time as a manager, sometimes by Burton fans. He can be petulant, and most certainly negative at times, but he does have that ability to build teams out of nothing.
At Sheffield United, he took them to the play-offs, the FA Cup Semi-final, and the league cup final during his short time there - but still they sacked him? Look at where they are now.
On his negative approach - he simply plays the odds, gambling that at 1-0 up the team is more likely to hold onto it with a defensive formation rather than trying to score another goal.
If you had a mathematician, draw up the stats of all the managers in the football league, I'd be very surprised if Clough's career wasn't right at the top. We are very lucky to have him at Burton.

....he does have a nigh on impossible job next season though !

 

[Dayman]

[QUOTE="Kilburn Ram, post: 413403, member: 831"
You won't have anything to worry about. Clough will give you mid table mediocrity for years to come. He specialises in it.

With the exception of one season (2011) Clough has never taken a club backwards in his career spanning 18 years. If we'd have lost patience in the same way as Derby, we'd still be in the conference (it took 7 years), it took 3 years to get up to the conference in the first place.
At Derby in his first season 2009/10 he more than halved the wage bill, yet still managed to finish with 2 more points, an incredible feat IMO. The fact is, had you kept faith with him and supported him, you'd be playing premier league football by now.
He gets a rough time as a manager, sometimes by Burton fans. He can be petulant, and most certainly negative at times, but he does have that ability to build teams out of nothing.
At Sheffield United, he took them to the play-offs, the FA Cup Semi-final, and the league cup final during his short time there - but still they sacked him? Look at where they are now.
On his negative approach - he simply plays the odds, gambling that at 1-0 up the team is more likely to hold onto it with a defensive formation rather than trying to score another goal.
If you had a mathematician, draw up the stats of all the managers in the football league, I'd be very surprised if Clough's career wasn't right at the top. We are very lucky to have him at Burton.

....he does have a nigh on impossible job next season though ![/QUOTE]

I wish more of our lot were as pragmatic as that towards Clough. Unfortunately I think he's gone past the point of no return by releasing Weir and Cansdell-Sherriff. Echoes of when Rowett got rid of Webster and Austin. A lot never forgave him for that and people were anti-Rowett for the rest of the time he was here despite the fact that he absolutely transformed the club.

I'm looking forward to next season but if we get a bad start then it won't be long until the knives are out.

 

[Luke_1884]

[QUOTE="Kilburn Ram, post: 413403, member: 831"
You won't have anything to worry about. Clough will give you mid table mediocrity for years to come. He specialises in it.

With the exception of one season (2011) Clough has never taken a club backwards in his career spanning 18 years. If we'd have lost patience in the same way as Derby, we'd still be in the conference (it took 7 years), it took 3 years to get up to the conference in the first place.
At Derby in his first season 2009/10 he more than halved the wage bill, yet still managed to finish with 2 more points, an incredible feat IMO. The fact is, had you kept faith with him and supported him, you'd be playing premier league football by now.
He gets a rough time as a manager, sometimes by Burton fans. He can be petulant, and most certainly negative at times, but he does have that ability to build teams out of nothing.
At Sheffield United, he took them to the play-offs, the FA Cup Semi-final, and the league cup final during his short time there - but still they sacked him? Look at where they are now.
On his negative approach - he simply plays the odds, gambling that at 1-0 up the team is more likely to hold onto it with a defensive formation rather than trying to score another goal.
If you had a mathematician, draw up the stats of all the managers in the football league, I'd be very surprised if Clough's career wasn't right at the top. We are very lucky to have him at Burton.

....he does have a nigh on impossible job next season though ![/QUOTE]

Fact?

Gi'oer mate.

Clough's hit n miss, decent purple patches and absolute rancid patches. Average negative football which doesn't quite sit with some football fans. I had no problems giving him the rest of 13/14 but there's no doubt that after the first quarter of the season we had shown little to no improvement despite the upped backing he had. The sacking was completely justified, with pretty much the same squad McClaren finally put some pieces together and took the team on no end, almost reaching the PL in his first attempt. That's a fact.

Unfortunately for me and 25,000+ sitting around for 10 years watching shite football wasn't going to cut it and thankfully the board weren't contempt either. PL isn't the priority for me, I just want to watch good football and be semi competitive (and not bottle so much please) so it's a no to Nige from me. Grateful for how he steadied the ship for the first few years but he wasn't my cup of tea, still wish him and Burton all the best.

 

[Dayman]

If your manager has decent financial backing and you're served up the same average negative football that you were when you were tightening your belts then I think you've got every right to be pissed off and want more. I can understand that and have always understood why Derby wanted to move on.

I'm under no illusions as to what brand of football we'll get next season. If we try to put together a free flowing attacking team then we'll get steamrollered every week. This is why Clough suits us. We'll do what we can with the resources we've got. Best case scenario for me is we hang in there until we grow our supporter base and get some more financial backing that our chairman has been begging for for years and THEN start to spread our wings a bit. Didn't Stoke do that in the Premier League? Grind out a few seasons under Pulis and when they'd got established they cut the cord and started to make real progression?

 

[JoshBCFC]

The quote button seems to have broken.

 

[Dayman]

The quote button seems to have broken.

No it hasn't

 

[THE TERRACEMAN]

[QUOTE="THE TERRACEMAN]
Recruitment is going to be vital and although Nigel Clough has his doubters I will trust him to get the players in to make us competitive.

You won't have anything to worry about. Clough will give you mid table mediocrity for years to come. He specialises in it.[/QUOTE]
Mid table mediocrity would be excellent for a club of our size in

 

[JoshBCFC]

With the exception of one season (2011) Clough has never taken a club backwards in his career spanning 18 years. If we'd have lost patience in the same way as Derby, we'd still be in the conference (it took 7 years), it took 3 years to get up to the conference in the first place.
At Derby in his first season 2009/10 he more than halved the wage bill, yet still managed to finish with 2 more points, an incredible feat IMO. The fact is, had you kept faith with him and supported him, you'd be playing premier league football by now.
He gets a rough time as a manager, sometimes by Burton fans. He can be petulant, and most certainly negative at times, but he does have that ability to build teams out of nothing.
At Sheffield United, he took them to the play-offs, the FA Cup Semi-final, and the league cup final during his short time there - but still they sacked him? Look at where they are now.
On his negative approach - he simply plays the odds, gambling that at 1-0 up the team is more likely to hold onto it with a defensive formation rather than trying to score another goal.
If you had a mathematician, draw up the stats of all the managers in the football league, I'd be very surprised if Clough's career wasn't right at the top. We are very lucky to have him at Burton.

....he does have a nigh on impossible job next season though !

Fact?

Gi'oer mate.

Clough's hit n miss, decent purple patches and absolute rancid patches. Average negative football which doesn't quite sit with some football fans. I had no problems giving him the rest of 13/14 but there's no doubt that after the first quarter of the season we had shown little to no improvement despite the upped backing he had. The sacking was completely justified, with pretty much the same squad McClaren finally put some pieces together and took the team on no end, almost reaching the PL in his first attempt. That's a fact.

Unfortunately for me and 25,000+ sitting around for 10 years watching shite football wasn't going to cut it and thankfully the board weren't contempt either. PL isn't the priority for me, I just want to watch good football and be semi competitive (and not bottle so much please) so it's a no to Nige from me. Grateful for how he steadied the ship for the first few years but he wasn't my cup of tea, still wish him and Burton all the best.[/QUOTE]


Yes it has