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Wrexham Hollywood takeover.

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Genuinely interested by this as it's a bit different and I hope it works out for you but have they set out their strategy / plans yet? Are they in it for the short term, long term etc? What happens when the £2m runs out / what is it being spent on? Where does the documentary fit into this? Is the success of that dictating how long they stick around?

Definitely something different and i'd be excited if I were a Wrexham fan as if it takes off they obviously have the funding to have a good go. Totally opposite to the kind of takeover we've had where we've having to cut budgets and start again
 

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Genuinely interested by this as it's a bit different and I hope it works out for you but have they set out their strategy / plans yet? Are they in it for the short term, long term etc? What happens when the £2m runs out / what is it being spent on? Where does the documentary fit into this? Is the success of that dictating how long they stick around?

Definitely something different and i'd be excited if I were a Wrexham fan as if it takes off they obviously have the funding to have a good go. Totally opposite to the kind of takeover we've had where we've having to cut budgets and start again
They plan on selling the ground to knock it down and to build a B&Q.
 

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I've just spent £64 on Ryan's gin through the Wrexham Supporters Trust site. He's a genius.
 

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Genuinely interested by this as it's a bit different and I hope it works out for you but have they set out their strategy / plans yet? Are they in it for the short term, long term etc? What happens when the £2m runs out / what is it being spent on? Where does the documentary fit into this? Is the success of that dictating how long they stick around?

Definitely something different and i'd be excited if I were a Wrexham fan as if it takes off they obviously have the funding to have a good go. Totally opposite to the kind of takeover we've had where we've having to cut budgets and start again

They have said they aren't in it for the short term, but time will tell on that score. The 2m a cash injection and is just initial investment, its not the totality of investment. I think we will ultimately see slow and steady growth, a lot of their talk revolves around the infrastructure- of which we currently have very little. So ground improvements, a training ground, investment in youth and community projects. We obviously now have the finances to compete on a squad building level too, although even before due to our relative size our turnover wasn't bad. This will just put us on a different level. We will finally be able to compete with Stockport.

The documentary is a funny one, I think it just boils down to the opportunity being there. There was some suggestion (just based on normal industry returns) that this alone would bring in 3million+ to the club, which is basically free money. Ryan Reynolds has a love of marketing, and particularly doing things a bit differently, so I suspect this is all part of the plan to market the club more widely.

First steps are going to be a new CEO being appointed and then restructuring of the staff. We can't buy players until the next International transfer window anyway. I suspect they are targeting next season for a promotion challenge, whatever happens with this one.
 

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First official partner. I would say it's tinpot if the company wasn't worth hundreds of millions.
 

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Think he was just referring to Brotherhood Clubs.

Yes. No offence intended. But I am afraid I was referring to clubs whose supporters can remember them reaching the giddy heights of at least the 3rd tier (or even higher) in recent times.
 

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No longer got the most exotic owners on the league. :(

Delighted for Wrexham, whose fans deserve something good after the last decade. As long as they appoint someone who knows what they’re doing to run the football side and let them get on with it, as seems to be the case, then it’s hard to see how it can go wrong. There’ll be some cringey marketing stuff (see the Chester thing in their mission statement), but who cares when their scope to raise your profile and bring money in is so massive. And, as others have said, they’ve got a massive public profile to protect, as opposed to your average dodgy rich bloke.
 

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No longer got the most exotic owners on the league. :(

Delighted for Wrexham, whose fans deserve something good after the last decade. As long as they appoint someone who knows what they’re doing to run the football side and let them get on with it, as seems to be the case, then it’s hard to see how it can go wrong. There’ll be some cringey marketing stuff (see the Chester thing in their mission statement), but who cares when their scope to raise your profile and bring money in is so massive. And, as others have said, they’ve got a massive public profile to protect, as opposed to your average dodgy rich bloke.
6000 gin bottles have been put on sale at £32 a pop, and are selling like hotcakes.

That's £192k in the coffers already minus expenses.
 

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They have said they aren't in it for the short term, but time will tell on that score. The 2m a cash injection and is just initial investment, its not the totality of investment. I think we will ultimately see slow and steady growth, a lot of their talk revolves around the infrastructure- of which we currently have very little. So ground improvements, a training ground, investment in youth and community projects. We obviously now have the finances to compete on a squad building level too, although even before due to our relative size our turnover wasn't bad. This will just put us on a different level. We will finally be able to compete with Stockport.

The documentary is a funny one, I think it just boils down to the opportunity being there. There was some suggestion (just based on normal industry returns) that this alone would bring in 3million+ to the club, which is basically free money. Ryan Reynolds has a love of marketing, and particularly doing things a bit differently, so I suspect this is all part of the plan to market the club more widely.

First steps are going to be a new CEO being appointed and then restructuring of the staff. We can't buy players until the next International transfer window anyway. I suspect they are targeting next season for a promotion challenge, whatever happens with this one.
Sounds incredibly positive for you all. I hope they get that bloody terrace back open as it's a fantastic stand
 

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6000 gin bottles have been put on sale at £32 a pop, and are selling like hotcakes.

That's £192k in the coffers already minus expenses.
It's crazy how a takeover reinvigorates a fan base. Our lot raised 15k to buy some bloody camera equipment when the takeover happened, then another 5k this week to a local Hospice because someone threatened one of their staff over the vaccines.

Would never have happened under the other lot
 

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Where do yous reckon this leaves Keates then?

I know he's universally disliked by the fans but I wonder with the inability to bring players in they'll keep him on till whenever this season ends or have The Cowleys™ already done their opening vignettes for the documentary.
 

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He has a contract until the summer, I reckon he’ll see the season out and hopefully we finish about 10th. Going up is the last thing we want.
 

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He has a contract until the summer, I reckon he’ll see the season out and hopefully we finish about 10th. Going up is the last thing we want.

Thats my view too. Gives the CEO time to appraise everything, avoids them having to look like bad guys sacking a guy who is doing OK (based in the table alone and putting aside everything else) and properly assess options for who is coming in. This season is a write off, and I think they'll concentrate on infrastructure issues first. There is no need to rush any decision.
 

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Hard not to be pleased for Wrexham who, along with us, Pools, Chessie and Stockport must be one of the worst clubs to have followed for the past 10 years.
Yeah I'd go along with this.

Good luck to Wrexham
 

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How do TV companies do it??
Wrexham v Notts has been live on BT for Saturday for about 3 weeks?
The take over happens and the first game is live!
OR do you think they delayed the takeover so it has maximum publicity?
 

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How do TV companies do it??
Wrexham v Notts has been live on BT for Saturday for about 3 weeks?
The take over happens and the first game is live!
OR do you think they delayed the takeover so it has maximum publicity?
Purely coincidental.
 

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Good luck to Wrexham, just not on Saturday.
It's been a long time down here for you fans but in the end a club of Wrexhams size will go up and when they do there's no reason for them not to go further.
 

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Yeh I kind of put them in a Luton Town/Lincoln City ball park. But with potential for much more fans.
I guess we (Notts) really need to be looking for top now as I think the playoffs could be very tasty indeed.
 

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Yeh I kind of put them in a Luton Town/Lincoln City ball park. But with potential for much more fans.
I guess we (Notts) really need to be looking for top now as I think the playoffs could be very tasty indeed.
Lincoln is a strange one like, before the Cowleys they were barely scraping 2k and I don't remember them getting much more than that in the FL either.

Luton I'd say are the biggest club to have been relegated down here. I think they could easily settle as a lower end Championship side.
 

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Good luck to Wrexham, get a manager that can spend the money well or you could be back where you started.
 

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Lincoln is a strange one like, before the Cowleys they were barely scraping 2k and I don't remember them getting much more than that in the FL either.

Luton I'd say are the biggest club to have been relegated down here. I think they could easily settle as a lower end Championship side.
Of the clubs that have been down here since we have, I can only think of Luton and Bristol Rovers who had reasonably larger crowds than us on a regular basis. I would put Oxford, Notts County and Tranmere in the bracket just below them before arriving at the likes of Wrexham, Hartlepool, Stockport, Grimsby & Chesterfield.

Lincoln were more in Mansfield, Torquay, Cambridge & Cheltenham territory, hitting the mid 2000s on average, dipping below 2000 on a number of occasions.
 

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He has a contract until the summer, I reckon he’ll see the season out and hopefully we finish about 10th. Going up is the last thing we want.
I'm no Keates fan by any means but wanting to not get promoted is bizarre. Anything to get out of this league I would take at the moment! If we're mid/lower League 2 next year then we can get rid.
 

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Lincoln is a strange one like, before the Cowleys they were barely scraping 2k and I don't remember them getting much more than that in the FL either.

Luton I'd say are the biggest club to have been relegated down here. I think they could easily settle as a lower end Championship side.
Prior to Cowley arriving, we'd spent 9 or 10 years without finishing above mid-table in L2 or the NL and the latter 5 years in the bottom third of the NL, so most lost interest.

In the FL we were a pretty standard 4.5k average over a number of years (still pulling in 8k-9k for the big games so the support has always been there, just not consistently).

A lot happened in 10 year gap between our good seasons, though. Firstly Lincoln is a fast growing City in a much better position than in our PO years under Big Keith, there's 14,000 at Lincoln Uni now (admittedly we don't get many Uni students in) and the seeds for some of the increase were sewn a couple of years before the Cowley's arrived. The Club had already started targeting schools and having a family area/family season tickets (since 2016/17 our family area has been full with around 2,000 in there every home game. ). Then you throw the Cowley's into the mix who were very good communicators and community people and it was the perfect match.

The FA Cup run, a sniff of league/cup success etc obviously helped and off the back of that and the money we made, we could sign well and go again and created a sustained pathway where we could afford to take the odd calculated gamble that we haven't been able to do before, which then created more success. The constant improvements at the Club keeps people engaged as well (new training ground, then improvements to match day experiences, now expansion plans for the Stadium (should have been this summer but put back to 2022)) and a feeling of continuous improvement that fans want to see and be a part of. We've currently got the perfect storm of an excellent Chairman, an excellent CEO, and excellent manager, an excellent squad who're playing excellent football and getting excellent results...excellent!

These sort of crowds have always been there but we've never been in a position to capitalise and keep them involved for long enough. Of course, they'll be a drop off at some point because whilst we're top of L1 at the minute, realistically we're going to find it incredibly tough in the Championship for any length of time if we ever get there (still a long way to go this season) and L1 always has a handful of your Portsmouth/Sunderland type of Clubs so the top end of L1 is a toughie.
 

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Of the clubs that have been down here since we have, I can only think of Luton and Bristol Rovers who had reasonably larger crowds than us on a regular basis. I would put Oxford, Notts County and Tranmere in the bracket just below them before arriving at the likes of Wrexham, Hartlepool, Stockport, Grimsby & Chesterfield.

Lincoln were more in Mansfield, Torquay, Cambridge & Cheltenham territory, hitting the mid 2000s on average, dipping below 2000 on a number of occasions.

Luton definitely a much bigger club than us, I always regard them and Oxford as the biggest clubs ever in this league.

Agree Lincoln attendances are surprising how they just shot up. No reason why we can't replicate what they have done though.
 

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Massive shame there’s no fans in on Saturday, I’m guessing it would have been a sellout?

Fair play to Wrexham, been down here for far longer than is remotely humane. Even our fake money takeover was much more fun than the vast majority of other years so a genuinely glamorous takeover should be great.

Getting the Cowleys on board has got to be the first port of call hasn’t it?
 

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