Alan Pardew: "Mourinho is shit and I'm the daddy"

[johnnytodd]

We also got bigger gates than you when we were in the Championship. Maybe he's on to something afterall...

your a yoyo club you deluded Geordie................comeback with a 70K home league fixture attendance..........pmsl and then count your trophies, ive just counted sunderlands and guess what?

We'll never get to find out because Mourinho is better than that. Pardew will get the most out of limited workhorses/journeymen and fuck all out of genuinely talented players. That's why the likes of Perch and Williamson featured so much for us while anyone with an ounce of creative ability was ostracised. Also why he'll rightly never be given a job at one of the top clubs. Imagine that numpty trying to tell Hazard or Sanchez they should be playing full back.



Erm, you finished 11th last season mate

 

[G.B]

Your stadium is made of wicker mate. Big clubs don't have stadiums made of wicker mate.

 

[mistermagic]

And Rozehnal was not shit. Don't ever say that again!

 

[johnnytodd]

Your stadium is made of wicker mate. Big clubs don't have stadiums made of wicker mate.

you have no history son, stick to bumming wippets and fat slags

 

[mistermagic]

Isn't GB a lil' old to be called son these days?

 

[JimJams]

Yes, but not too old to bum whippets. I think it's important we make that quite clear.

 

[mistermagic]

So he's too old to bum fat slags?

 

[JimJams]

No, but G.B has standards.

 

[G.B]

And Rozehnal was not shit. Don't ever say that again!

Mate, I'd love to back you up after the semi-hype you gave the fella, but he was wank for us in all honesty.

Aye, I'm getting on a bit tbf. Never too old to bum the odd whippet though. JJ got dat right. Appreciate the defence regarding fat slags btw

 

[mistermagic]

Damn, just realised Rozehnal got transferred from PSG to Newcastle back in 2007. Time flies.

 

[G.B]

Damn, just realised Rozehnal got transferred from PSG to Newcastle back in 2007. Time flies.

Aye, back in the day, huh. Good times mate. The promise of greater things and all that...

Mind, it does make you question wtf you're doing with your life when you put it like that I've been on a football forum for 9 years, the fuck is wrong with me?

 

[JaseTheVillain]

Erm, you finished 11th last season mate

Means nothing, second season syndrome for a start, also, would you really say that anyone from 9th downwards couldn't go down next season? Because I honestly believe any one of those teams could be in trouble next season, it only takes a couple of things to go wrong. I include West Ham in this only because of their recent form being toilet, and that shit can carry over seasons.

 

[Toffee_Joe]

Means nothing, second season syndrome for a start, also, would you really say that anyone from 9th downwards couldn't go down next season? Because I honestly believe any one of those teams could be in trouble next season, it only takes a couple of things to go wrong. I include West Ham in this only because of their recent form being toilet, and that shit can carry over seasons.

I would be shocked if any of West Ham, provided they don't do anything stupid with their manager, Stoke, us or West Brom went down next year.

 

[Anon]

I wouldn't be. Like JTV said, outside of the top 8 or so, on a season to season basis any could have a great season and finish top half yet have a terrible season where it all goes wrong and find themselves in the relegation spots. Has been that way in the Premier League for years now.

 

[Toffee_Joe]

West Ham are a good side with money who are on their way up to competing in Europe. Stoke have midtable written all over them. We are a lot better than we have shown and will be competing for top 7 next year. And West Brom have Pulis so midtable beckons. All will comfortably finish above 15th.

 

[mistermagic]

Aye, back in the day, huh. Good times mate. The promise of greater things and all that...

Mind, it does make you question wtf you're doing with your life when you put it like that I've been on a football forum for 9 years, the fuck is wrong with me?

Been 10 years for me. Think I joined TFF on February 2005. At school.

 

[JaseTheVillain]

West Ham are a good side with money who are on their way up to competing in Europe. Stoke have midtable written all over them. We are a lot better than we have shown and will be competing for top 7 next year. And West Brom have Pulis so midtable beckons. All will comfortably finish above 15th.

You wouldn't have said West Ham would have been 'challenging' for the top 4 come January, you wouldn't have said that Everton would still have relegation worries up until a couple of weeks ago, Stoke are one bad season away from dropping, whether it comes or not, we'll see, I see them as a Blackburn/Bolton of a few years ago, could progress, but just as likely to drop. West Brom always like to have a couple of good seasons then fuck off to the Championship for a bit so they can win something to come back up and repeat it again, perhaps they'll finally solidify, but again, we'll see.

 

[Toffee_Joe]

You wouldn't have said West Ham would have been 'challenging' for the top 4 come January, you wouldn't have said that Everton would still have relegation worries up until a couple of weeks ago, Stoke are one bad season away from dropping, whether it comes or not, we'll see, I see them as a Blackburn/Bolton of a few years ago, could progress, but just as likely to drop. West Brom always like to have a couple of good seasons then fuck off to the Championship for a bit so they can win something to come back up and repeat it again, perhaps they'll finally solidify, but again, we'll see.

Fair enough. Guess there is always a chance but your evidence is based around half seasons. Over a full year none of these sides will go down. Over half a year a team can compete or will struggle. That's much less likely over a full year.

 

[JaseTheVillain]

Fair enough. Guess there is always a chance but your evidence is based around half seasons. Over a full year none of these sides will go down. Over half a year a team can compete or will struggle. That's much less likely over a full year.

Of course, but it only takes a fuck up or two and you can be staring down the barrel. Look what happened to us post O'Neill (arguably Houllier), loss of funds and shit appointments. This has resulted in us reverting to how we were pre-O'Neill. Fair enough, we've survived so far, but we've been flirting with relegation for 4 seasons now. 3 of which (as I'm going to assume this year will be the same) we've finished on less than 40 points in. The other, we finished on 41. This is a drop from 64 in O'Neill's last season to 48 in Houllier's season, 38 in McLeish's season, 41 and 38 in Lambert's seasons, and probably about 35ish this year. That's a pretty steep drop for a fuck up at the club. Only takes a bad managerial appointment, or a loss of interest from an owner (or loss of funds for whatever reason), and you're seriously staring down the barrel.

 

[LondonOrn]

I can see where Skinner is coming from regarding Palace (and he ought to know more than any of us non-Palace fans) - they have to be considered one of the, if not THE worst team to get promoted from the Championship and stay up. After being in promotion contention for the first time in five years, they limped into the play-offs with 72 points after scraping a last-minute win at home to relegated Peterborough after going nine games without a win (and going FIVE games without scoring, including a few heavy defeats). Even before they had the run of five wins in a row to secure safety with a few games to spare, they were winning mostly by 1-0, and that was while playing actually quite decent football considering Pulis' reputation as a dour and negative tactician. But after Pulis' departure and Warnock's ill-fated return, under Pardew they have looked even better, averaging 2 points a game in a run that includes home games against Spurs and Man City, and away games at West Ham and Stoke, winning all four of them.

They arguably shouldn't have been promoted in the first place and if we hadn't been so unlucky in 2012/13 with injuries to two goalkeepers in our final league game against Leeds, they probably would have been playing Hull in the play-off final, which likely would have been a much tougher proposition than our no-show at Wembley. Yet here they are, and go on from strength to strength having managed to secure the services of two big-name managers (say what you like about Pardew, but there's no way we would have been able to attract someone like him or Pulis). Not meaning to be bitter, but what's been the secret behind their success? Have they had a major injection of cash in recent seasons after a couple of years of struggle in the Championship, did they have better players all along than results and performances suggested under Ian Holloway, did they achieve promotion more in spite than because of him?

Also, going back to Pardew, it's funnily how easily it's overlooked by Newcastle fans that they finished 5th in his first full season - I'd imagine without having seen full matches of them back then that you don't finish 5th in the top flight as the 6th highest scorers by playing negative and uncreative football (could be wrong though). Unless that season can be brushed aside as a freak, a bit like Ipswich's 5th place in 2000/01?

 

[Toffee_Joe]

Of course, but it only takes a fuck up or two and you can be staring down the barrel. Look what happened to us post O'Neill (arguably Houllier), loss of funds and shit appointments. This has resulted in us reverting to how we were pre-O'Neill. Fair enough, we've survived so far, but we've been flirting with relegation for 4 seasons now. 3 of which (as I'm going to assume this year will be the same) we've finished on less than 40 points in. The other, we finished on 41. This is a drop from 64 in O'Neill's last season to 48 in Houllier's season, 38 in McLeish's season, 41 and 38 in Lambert's seasons, and probably about 35ish this year. That's a pretty steep drop for a fuck up at the club. Only takes a bad managerial appointment, or a loss of interest from an owner (or loss of funds for whatever reason), and you're seriously staring down the barrel.

That's true but even in that it took a couple of years and I belief quite a significant cut in wages and sales on key players. I just think those teams will be safe next year. They are well run clubs with good managers and a solid foundation for success.

 

[Skinner]

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/577880/Newcastle-QPR-Mike-Ashley-sell-if-Toon-relegated

Freddy Shepherd blames Pardew for the mess Newcastle are in now, claiming the players he signed weren't good enough.

How much input did Graham Carr have on the players signed? As far as I was aware, regardless of who the manager is, the club worked predominantly through Carr's scouting...

 

[Anon]

Pardew's hands were seemingly largely tied financially, not to mention the year-long debacle of Joe Kinnear being responsibly for transfers (wasn't it just one player signed, Remy on loan?), and yet Shepherd's finger is pointed at Pardew for their current woes?

He's right on one thing though, Pardew was smart and the time was right to get out. He probably got sick of being the guy who had to work with Ashley and his cronies, a squad that now it seems isn't very good in quality or numbers, and get endless stick from fans while doing so. For all his faults and communication gaffes, and there are many, he evidently held that all together and got very, very little credit for doing so.

 

[ArmchairDiehard]

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/577880/Newcastle-QPR-Mike-Ashley-sell-if-Toon-relegated

Freddy Shepherd blames Pardew for the mess Newcastle are in now, claiming the players he signed weren't good enough.

How much input did Graham Carr have on the players signed? As far as I was aware, regardless of who the manager is, the club worked predominantly through Carr's scouting...

Newcastle wouldn't be in a relegation fight now if they hadn't chased out Pardew.

 

[Smally]

My thoughts were Carr recommended who to sign and the manager said yay or nay. Pardew has Newcastle around mid table when he left, which any competent manager should be able to achieve. Carver is hopelessly out of his depth

 

[G.B]

Update on Alan Pardew's managerial situation (he's still bad at it):

5 losses in a row for Pardew. 2 points from the last 21 available. The mask has slipped once again. And to think some idiots were suggesting he should take over Hodgson for England




Let us end with a few of the more amusing Pardew quotes...

“There’s a few in there that need to understand what this game’s about. The Premier League is all well and good but a few young boys got caught out tonight by the passion and the physical side of Stevenage.”

“I think the formation thing is getting in the way of what we’ve got to do. That’s winning headers, running faster and showing a desire to win the game.”

“We don’t seem to be able to get through this tie (F.A Cup 3rd round). For the last three years I don’t know, it’s science against me.”

Fucking science, what a bastard.

 

[JaseTheVillain]

Hey, we're not in relegation form at the moment. Go us!

 

[G.B]

It's a shame the thread where everyone was giving West Ham shit for sacking Fat Sam has gone, coulda made some people look rather foolish that one. I believe only myself, our resident Hammers and a select few other gurus were all for the change.

 

[TheArtfulDodger]

The deluded tosser claimed referees were biased against him at Palace and in favour of him when at Newcastle.

 

[GodsGift]

He loves a good old losing run does our Pards #messiah