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and if they are are they as big as say tottenham hotspurs or the manchester city
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Yep. Spurs getting a first Premier League title before them would be damning. Leicester doing it should be their cue to throw in the towel. Still a big club in the city of Liverpool, but not really anywhere else.Big clubs don't go 26 years without a domestic league title imvho and that.
Don't forget the unglamorous football both sides are noted for, though Stoke have improved a lot in that regard.stoke is a good comparison. both have rather illustrious history although both team's peaks were long before most fans were born. both solid, mid-table sides now and both have good fan reputations, liverpool having a fair few although quite quiet fans whilst stoke, although they have fewer fans, have a reputation for loud, passionate support
so ac milan who have more domestic titles (and within living memory) and champions league aren't as big ok coolThe 2nd biggest club in this country by an absolute distance with obviously only man u above them and arsenal behind them. No one else is even half as big of a club in my opinion. Worldwide id put real madrid,barcelona,man u above them and bayern munich on a par.
so ac milan who have more domestic titles (and within living memory) and champions league aren't as big ok cool
not sure what you're judging on but it can't be facts