Carlisle v Hartlepool (last day)

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:woo:Great turnaround. Hope the "poolie Rastas" had a good day. Gutted I couldn't make it.
 

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, Hartlepool were shit. Big rebuilding job needed for them in the summer but Moore will know this.

First half was total domination despite us putting a weakened team out. I thought pools were worse than when we stuffed coopers side in October.

Then second half we got cocky and put two kids of 16/17 on and they put Harewood on and we couldn't cope. The kids aren't ready but at least we've found out now in this meaningless fixture. What a difference Harewood made, far better than the other 2 even though Hugill scored 2, Harewood was the game changer. But we really should have won the game comfortably despite conceding 3, how Wyke didn't score a hattrick I'll never know.

Great game for the neutral.
 
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Ahem.....If you haven't hung yourself Mr Hello, at least you gave now seen why we escaped!! ....I was right about Hughill though!
Other than 2 tap ins, I wasn't that impressed with him. Our 2 inexperienced centre backs had the easiest half they'll ever play first half. It was Harewood that made the difference and caused us problems. Far too big and strong, he gave a masterclass in centre forward play I thought.
 

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Wow, them subs cost us that game, then we went to 451 and let Pools back in the game. Harewood was easily Hartlepool's best player when he came on.

Embarrassed after that collapse, should've won it comfortably. Oh well, onto next season with or without Curle (most likely with).
 

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What a ridiculous game that was.

Curle really should have just seen out the win, would have been a great way to end a shit season... we got a decent crowd, the atmosphere was fantastic season tickets go on sale for non-renewals next week and people who haven't gone for most of this season would have gone home thinking they're going to come back next year, and those of us who have stuck it out this year would have felt like we'd been rewarded for our loyalty.

Instead he decided to try out a few players at the extreme ends of the age spectrum in the second half, and switched the tactics. He maybe thought that at 3-0 and with Hartlepool unable to get the ball off us it was impossible to throw away, but we did... to be fair there was nothing riding on the result and he probably doesn't care, he wanted to blood the young players and some fans will agree with him, but it was just such an opportunity missed to end the season on such a high with some of the quality of football we played in the first half.

Even then, a couple of desperate blocks on the line kept Wyke from bagging a brace, but once Hartlepool went 3-1 there was only ever going to be one result.
 

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In fairness shoddy, I kind of can't blame Curle for bringing the kids on. 3-0 up at home in a meaningless game. When else can he experiment like this?

It was disappointing to draw, but even with the changes, we still created 2 or 3 glorious chances in the second half at 3-2 to absolutely kill the game.
 

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In fairness shoddy, I kind of can't blame Curle for bringing the kids on. 3-0 up at home in a meaningless game. When else can he experiment like this?

Yeah, some fans texting in to BBCRC (and James Phillips) felt that way. In a sense it doesn't really matter, nothing was riding on it and Curle is employed to manage the team so he can do whatever he likes, the manager of a branch of Tesco wouldn't be subject to this level of scrunity, so there is an argument to just let him do what he thinks is best. Still think the buzz around the city would be much better in the week season tickets go on sale had we won 3-0, and as a fan I still feel slightly like I've been denied the enjoyment of hammering someone by Curle have different priorities. Que sera.

There was a lot of speculation about the futures of Dicker and Paynter on BBCRC. Odd really, they seemed so sure that being left out of the squad on the final day was an message that they aren't wanted... no Grainger either though, and O'Hanlon only on the bench with a loanee preferred at centre back, so it was certainly an experimental line-up, not sure how much you can read into who was and who wasn't involved.
 

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We should have easily won but what the hell , it was a good game to watch , great atmosphere, over 8,000 there with over 2,000 from pools, Pools fans had a great day out , singing Bob Marley songs and must have been half of them dressed up.
 

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Best bit (apart from when we were 3-0 up) was when Hartlepool scored their equaliser and the Carlisle fans in the WRE started singing '3-0 and we fucked it up'... obviously felt we had to get that song going to steal a march on the Poolies.
 

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It's truly amazing some of the results we ground out given we have about 3 decent footballers in our squad. Nothing short of miraculous. Getting results on sheer willpower alone.
 

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Jesus, people are actually saying Curle should be sacked for bringing on the 16yr old subs too early!

FFS talk about an over reaction. If someone had told us a few weeks ago that we'd be safe by 9 points and draw 3-3 on the final day, we'd have taken it all day long.
 

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Absolutely brilliant final game, scoreline not the best but it was really just one big party so who cares. Well done to both teams who have looked deep into the mire at different stages this season.
 

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Jesus, people are actually saying Curle should be sacked for bringing on the 16yr old subs too early!

FFS talk about an over reaction. If someone had told us a few weeks ago that we'd be safe by 9 points and draw 3-3 on the final day, we'd have taken it all day long.

Yeah, there were loads of texters into BBCRC saying that. While those people are wrong, the fact there are quite a few of them is kind of my concern. We could have sent them all home happy and instead we give people something to moan about. Typical Carlisle fans, show them a silver lining and they'd go looking for the cloud.
 

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Yeah, there were loads of texters into BBCRC saying that. While those people are wrong, the fact there are quite a few of them is kind of my concern. We could have sent them all home happy and instead we give people something to moan about. Typical Carlisle fans, show them a silver lining and they'd go looking for the cloud.

Why can't they see the bigger picture? Yeah we drew because Curle tried some youngsters who in hindsight aren't ready for league 2, but this was the game to try it. While we had senior players on the pitch (even though it wasn't anywhere best our strongest 11) we played some brilliant football and totally dominated. I even thought we played alright in the second half, just weren't quite as solid in midfield and got punished for it.

But talking about sacking him because he experimented with some youngsters in a meaningless game is ridiculous.
 

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its because alot of people just are not convinced about Curle and that is really most of the reason for the complaints.......not because of the game yesterday................there is a big fear we will right now do the exact same disasterous thing we did in 2014 and 2013............here is hoping their dogged sticking with an uncnvincing manager does not backfire for the 3rd time in a row.

I disagree completely with you guys on next season and saying midtable is fine......midtable would be an absolute disaster. Next season we should for the first time have some momentum, new owners, no debt, no Nixon/Patterson/Jenkins making decisions, our wage budget will probably be in the top 3-5 in the entire division, the start of next season will see some hope and momentum and positive atmosphere around the place.

That needs latched on and if they do then we'll get 7-8,000 gates. If they f*ck it about that entire boost of the new owners will sink faster than the Titanic, Carlisle public give up very quickly and lose interest and if we decide next year to just 'P*ss about' we've lost anything and everything Lapping and co could bring the club before it even starts.

With a probably top 3-5 in the division budget the question right now is can Curle deliver top 7 place and nothing less than that, this season was a disaster and in a way its good we failed because they did not at all deserve a nicey nice clap off at the end, i'd say apart from Portsmouth we were the leagues biggest failures as we spent big and delivered f*ck all.
 

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Agree Dave ,this is our chance ,when Story took over and lead us from the conference to the brink of the championship . We need a similar reaction and the same again , today there was over 8,000 for a meaning less end of season game that endorses the potential we have .The average age of the team that started yesterday was 21 with only Sweeney and Kenedy with any sort of experience or age,at half time Sweeney was replace by Hammel who is 17 and then 10 mins later a 16 year old youth player came on.Yes it went a bit flat but what the hell we need to look forward,there was enough in there to build on and looking at the age of the team yesterday the future is bright .
 

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Typical Pools,absolute shyte first half,but what a turn around in the 2nd.Playing Addy in his first game didn't work.Once we brought Jones & Marlon we were different side.Either team could have won it in the end.
 

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its because alot of people just are not convinced about Curle and that is really most of the reason for the complaints.......not because of the game yesterday................there is a big fear we will right now do the exact same disasterous thing we did in 2014 and 2013............here is hoping their dogged sticking with an uncnvincing manager does not backfire for the 3rd time in a row.

I disagree completely with you guys on next season and saying midtable is fine......midtable would be an absolute disaster. Next season we should for the first time have some momentum, new owners, no debt, no Nixon/Patterson/Jenkins making decisions, our wage budget will probably be in the top 3-5 in the entire division, the start of next season will see some hope and momentum and positive atmosphere around the place.

That needs latched on and if they do then we'll get 7-8,000 gates. If they f*ck it about that entire boost of the new owners will sink faster than the Titanic, Carlisle public give up very quickly and lose interest and if we decide next year to just 'P*ss about' we've lost anything and everything Lapping and co could bring the club before it even starts.

With a probably top 3-5 in the division budget the question right now is can Curle deliver top 7 place and nothing less than that, this season was a disaster and in a way its good we failed because they did not at all deserve a nicey nice clap off at the end, i'd say apart from Portsmouth we were the leagues biggest failures as we spent big and delivered f*ck all.
Sorry Dave but anyone who thinks this shower of shite are finishing top 7 are setting themself up for a huge disappointment.

People will say look at Wycombe, but they had a lot of dead wood out of contract so could totally rebuild. Unfortunately the majority of ours signed 2 year deals last summer so we're stuck for another year. Some very big earners as well, and there's the likelyhood that Potts will leave and Dempsey will be sold which will weaken us significantly. There'll be small room for improvement with the likes of Robson, Gillies, Symington, Elliott, Amoo out of contract to allow us to make some signings. But hell no where near enough to turn us into playoff contenders.

I thought we were 100% down, so Curle has done well to keep this shite in the football league, if he can make a few changes and turn this heap of shit into a mid table side it will be a remarkable achievement imo. To turn it into a playoff team would be a miracle.
 

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I disagree with that, I think we HAVE to be aiming for play offs at least, we have some good players that have underperformed for the majority of the season. We'd have been comfortably midtable if we didn't start the season with Kavanagh, and even then we finished 9pts clear.
 

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I disagree with that, I think we HAVE to be aiming for play offs at least, we have some good players that have underperformed for the majority of the season. We'd have been comfortably midtable if we didn't start the season with Kavanagh, and even then we finished 9pts clear.
Of course we have to aim. We have to aim to win the title, but the reality of the situation is, we've got a shit squad with the odd good player. With this group of players even with a few additions, I don't think playoffs are possible.
 

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I partially agree with HG. I don't think we've got all that shit a squad, we just have gaps in key positions and some players who've been playing out of position... but I'd be relieved if we just stopped the decline and started looking upwards, and if you're in mid-table then you've always got a chance of a play-off push so it's not like the play-offs are out of the question, but we'd have exceeded my expectations if we got into them, playing attractive football would be a bonus if we could do that too.
 

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That's the main thing for me, improve the quality football, improve the woeful defensive record then improve the league position and I'll be satisfied.
 

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