Is Brendan Rogers position under threat ?

[merseyboyred]

There's No-one better for Liverpool apparently http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32437970

Yes, he's going to say someone else would be better, isn't he?

 

[Abertawe]

Dude should never have left his wife. When he gets the sack he'll have nothing but a wedge of cash with no one to share it with. He'll go to pot when he's dumped out.

 

[SALTIRE]

Dude should never have left his wife. When he gets the sack he'll have nothing but a wedge of cash with no one to share it with. He'll go to pot when he's dumped out.

You wouldn't be where you are today without Brodge, short memories...

 

[Stevencc]

Rodgers also said that he thinks he could compete with any manager there is, if the board backed him in the transfer market. It's not like they've given him £210m to spend since he took over or anything.

 

[thespus]

Jurgen Klopp did very well (better than Rodgers) without half the backing Rodgers received in the transfer market. When he lost his best striker (Lewa isn't quite Suarez, but he's probably a top 5 #9 in the world), BVB received £0 compared to £75m. I think Liverpool should persist with Rodgers unless Klopp indicates he'd take the chance.

 

[G-Dragon]

Jurgen Klopp did very well (better than Rodgers) without half the backing Rodgers received in the transfer market. When he lost his best striker (Lewa isn't quite Suarez, but he's probably a top 5 #9 in the world), BVB received £0 compared to £75m. I think Liverpool should persist with Rodgers unless Klopp indicates he'd take the chance.

Look where Dortmund are now.

 

[thespus]

Erm, happier with their last few seasons than Liverpool?

 

[smat]

Jurgen Klopp did very well (better than Rodgers) without half the backing Rodgers received in the transfer market. When he lost his best striker (Lewa isn't quite Suarez, but he's probably a top 5 #9 in the world), BVB received £0 compared to £75m. I think Liverpool should persist with Rodgers unless Klopp indicates he'd take the chance.

How much have other sides in Germany spent? Obv no-one gets close to Bayern but Rodgers has Arsenal, Chelsea, City and United to compete with. Would be interested to see how much competition Klopp has had.

 

[Spear]

"there is nobody better than me"

 

[allouso]

How much have other sides in Germany spent? Obv no-one gets close to Bayern but Rodgers has Arsenal, Chelsea, City and United to compete with. Would be interested to see how much competition Klopp has had.

This...i don't really get people who compare Rodgers to Klopp, i think it's entirely different scenarios. The level of the PL is not what it used to be but is it more competitive at the top?

Strangely enough we're exactly where i thought we'd be at the beginning of the season. Didn't really believe we'd finish 4th with Chelsea/City being certainties, United hiring a top class manager and going on a huge spending spree buying world class players (yes, i know we had money, but we were unlikely to get any of their players), Arsenal pipping a top class player from right under our noses. League wise we're exactly where i thought we'd be, after selling someone like Suarez (who's irreplaceable) and losing Sturridge for most of the year, we've done fairly OK all things considered. We're on course to finish 5th with our highest scorer being Sterling with 7 (!) goals. When i think about what we've lost i do tend to believe that Rodgers has done well to keep us afloat, but it's the manner of the collapses in the CL, in the league vs Arsenal/United and vs Villa as well as this strange habit of buying "potential" that makes me doubt him.

As i said earlier, unless Klopp shows interest, which i highly doubt, i think we should stick to Rodgers.

 

[thespus]

This...i don't really get people who compare Rodgers to Klopp, i think it's entirely different scenarios. The level of the PL is not what it used to be but is it more competitive at the top?

Strangely enough we're exactly where i thought we'd be at the beginning of the season. Didn't really believe we'd finish 4th with Chelsea/City being certainties, United hiring a top class manager and going on a huge spending spree buying world class players (yes, i know we had money, but we were unlikely to get any of their players), Arsenal pipping a top class player from right under our noses. League wise we're exactly where i thought we'd be, after selling someone like Suarez (who's irreplaceable) and losing Sturridge for most of the year, we've done fairly OK all things considered. We're on course to finish 5th with our highest scorer being Sterling with 7 (!) goals. When i think about what we've lost i do tend to believe that Rodgers has done well to keep us afloat, but it's the manner of the collapses in the CL, in the league vs Arsenal/United and vs Villa as well as this strange habit of buying "potential" that makes me doubt him.

As i said earlier, unless Klopp shows interest, which i highly doubt, i think we should stick to Rodgers.

Both you and Smat have articulated that point well. It isn't an exact science, but it is based in more empirical data than exists to suggest Rodgera is the man. So while wining the Buli twice in a row isn't the same as soing so in England, it is more impressive than having an underwhelming summer, a very poor CL campaign, and finishing outside of the top four. There is also the evidence for Klopp in BVB's CL final experience (including the dismantling of Mourinho's Madrid).

I don't think they should sack Rodgers unless Klopp expresses interest.

 

[allouso]

Both you and Smat have articulated that point well. It isn't an exact science, but it is based in more empirical data than exists to suggest Rodgera is the man. So while wining the Buli twice in a row isn't the same as soing so in England, it is more impressive than having an underwhelming summer, a very poor CL campaign, and finishing outside of the top four. There is also the evidence for Klopp in BVB's CL final experience (including the dismantling of Mourinho's Madrid).

I don't think they shoukd sack Rodgers unless Klopp expresses interest.

Agreed with the above. Klopp has also shown that he can do it in the CL, something Rodgers has failed to do.

I'm pessimistic about him being interested in us, but for some reason i don't see him at someone like City. The available options are City, maybe Real and PSG? You also have clubs like Milan and us, big names but huge challenges.

I think he'll end up at Real, Carlo will get the boot if he doesn't win anything.

 

[SALTIRE]

I think he'll end up at Real, Carlo will get the boot if he doesn't win anything.

They are really pushing into promoting Zidane from the B team apparently.

I think of the potential available options for Klopp, Liverpool and Arsenal would be two of the best ones for him to go to. Both big clubs with money that just need a bit of tinkering to make them consistent trophy winners once more.

 

[Stevencc]

Arsenal fair enough, Liverpool need a hell of a lot of work doing to turn them into consistent trophy winners though.

 

[Abertawe]

Can see him ending up here when Citeh swoop for Monk at the end of the season.

 

[SALTIRE]

Arsenal fair enough, Liverpool need a hell of a lot of work doing to turn them into consistent trophy winners though.

They need goals definitely and one or two additions around other areas, but I don't think they'd then be that far away from competing for trophies regularly if said signings hit the ground running (a big ask under FSG I know). Mind you we've been saying this about both them and Arsenal for years now and it still hasn't happened!

 

[Spear]

Latest : "No Europe, this is to allow for a title next year"

 

[SALTIRE]

Latest : "No Europe, this is to allow for a title next year"

Think Carra tweeted something like that tonight!

 

[Red]

But if they're in the Europa Cup that's an even more lengthy competition than the CL isn't it? Mind they'll probably get knocked out of that early on if the last few games are anything to go by.

 

[JaseTheVillain]

The Reserve Cup as English clubs seem to think.

 

[SALTIRE]

The EL is getting a bigger cash injection and of course CL qualification for the winners, makes it a lot more appealing to toffee nose English teams now. Its still a hell of a long competition but its getting a more entertaining one than the dull as dishwater clique that the CL has become.

 

[Christian Slater]

If a competition can be lauded when you're in it just as easily as it's dismissed when you're knocked out then it's a nothing competition.

 

[SALTIRE]

If a competition can be lauded when you're in it just as easily as it's dismissed when you're knocked out then it's a nothing competition.

Just like the CL - oh wait there's money in that so thats ok to like then.

 

[NiallQuinnDiscoPants]

I enjoy the Europa League. I actually pretty much enjoy it more than the Champions League these days (obviously apart from on the match days which we're involved with i.e not after March). You get some really fresh match ups in the Europa League and there's plenty of different teams in it every season. Yes the attendances are down & players don't really take it seriously, but once you get into the later stages it becomes pretty good. Champions League at this stage is usually BARCA / REAL / BAYERN on a loop.

I see the Europa League & Champions League as two single women on a night out. The Europa League is like a plain-Jane type who doesn't look the best but once you get talking to her, she's intelligent, funny & pretty engaging. Unfortunately you don't notice the Europa League woman as Champions League woman has massive fake tits, long blonde hair, big plastic lips & is as loud as anything. Everyone wants a piece of Champions League woman, because she looks like a model. But once you start talking to her, you realise she's pretty boring & vacant.

 

[SC49]

They need goals definitely and one or two additions around other areas, but I don't think they'd then be that far away from competing for trophies regularly if said signings hit the ground running (a big ask under FSG I know). Mind you we've been saying this about both them and Arsenal for years now and it still hasn't happened!

What hasn't happened? we've signed big players in Ozil and Sanchez and in return we've won the FA Cup and the Community Shield and we're in another FA Cup final.

We'll win the league within the next 2 seasons and then we'll go for the Champions League.

 

[Christian Slater]

Just like the CL - oh wait there's money in that so thats ok to like then.

It always hurts to get knocked out of the CL, and only a fool would claim it didn't matter.

 

[SALTIRE]

What hasn't happened? we've signed big players in Ozil and Sanchez and in return we've won the FA Cup and the Community Shield and we're in another FA Cup final.

We'll win the league within the next 2 seasons and then we'll go for the Champions League.

And then you woke up. There is no way Arsenal are winning the league with Mourinho in the PL.

Wenger is a fine domestic trophy manager, but he's past it for leagues, let alone how despicably bad he is in Europe.

 

[thespus]

Just like the CL - oh wait there's money in that so thats ok to like then.

Yes, because money makes the world go 'round and gives your side more chance to improve. Any fan that says he prefers his side played in the Europa League to the Champions League is lying to his/herself.

 

[SALTIRE]

It always hurts to get knocked out of the CL, and only a fool would claim it didn't matter.

I was disappointed more in the performances of Liverpool in the CL this season rather than getting knocked out of it as they weren't showing what they could do - and in the end they lost out by a single goal - oh well, not the end of the world, it won't be the last time I'll see Liverpool in the CL.

 

[thespus]

And then you woke up. There is no way Arsenal are winning the league with Mourinho in the PL.

Wenger is a fine domestic trophy manager, but he's past it for leagues, let alone how despicably bad he is in Europe.

What does this make Rodgers? Or are Liverpool a club with lower expectations than Arsenal?

Liverpool management would fire Rodgers on the spot if Wenger was available and interested.