Tuesday 15th August Fixtures

GeneralLee

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I’m fairly sure that I’ve just watched the worst Derby County performance in our 139 year history.

The Warne experience is done. He probably won’t be sacked just yet, but it’s done. The tides have turned. It’s a matter of time.
As has been said already, a massive exaggeration.

Derby weren't good but they aren't exactly relegation fodder. I quite like Paul Warne, yet Derby do look like they've just thrown together a load of experienced pros and are hoping that they'll all gel whilst hoping the quality and experience will shine.

I'm not convinced though based on 90 minutes it looks like a few supporters share a similar view...
 

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What's this obsession with certain teams in this league knocking it sideways and backwards constantly without actually getting anywhere? Blackpool were another example....do they just want to win possession stats? I can't abide that method of possession for possession sake.
But you cant score if they have the ball, and you didnt.
I get what you are saying though, we do the same although there seems to be a purpose this season, and we have created a lot of space doing it which in turn leads to chances which we have (squandered) a lot so far.
 

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Your win at Derby makes me feel that bit better about Saturdays defeat.
I actually said the same in reverse. I am now pleased with the scrappy 1-0 win after seeing you drew with Wigan.
 

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Really tough one to take. We dominated but with no cutting edge and then capitulated after Rovers first goal, they should have seen the game off there and then. We then really should have found a winner with May hitting the post before a certain red not being given allowing Rovers to push forward and grab the winner.
For us: no squad depth, shakey at the back and not clinical up top. Another season loitering around mid table unless things somehow drastically change

In a nutshell. Already know how this season is going to go, how hopelessly depressing.
 

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Ahh Cambridge - Port Vale.

The rivalry that no one wanted, but we all needed.
 

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But you cant score if they have the ball, and you didnt.
I get what you are saying though, we do the same although there seems to be a purpose this season, and we have created a lot of space doing it which in turn leads to chances which we have (squandered) a lot so far.
I get your point but then Leicester won the Premier league with possession well below 50% on average. I think possession has its place if it's progressive and actually gets you up the field into dangerous areas, but this knocking it around the back for half an hour is just pointless and wastes time.

Last night, we had the 2 best chances of the game, so for all their possession of the ball, they actually did nothing with it. Crazy tactics in my view, particularly at this level where the quality is pretty poor.
 

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This league is tougher than I remember. or we're just no where near as good as we were when we were last comfortable in this league. Wigan were comfortably the best we've faced of the 3 teams so far, so last night was definitely a point gained.

Anyway, 3 games in the good signs are we're not conceding a lot of goals. We've conceded 1 in each game, and at least 2 of them have been really avoidable. If we can just get some better quality into the top end of the pitch we might be ok at this level.

Long way to go yet, some encouraging signs but also some concerning signs.
I think you're holding your own to be honest and have started pretty well. In spite of a few bigger teams, the general standard is pretty similar to when we were last in the league (bearing in mind we nearly avoided relegation with one of our worst ever teams). The trouble is that those few big teams can afford 2 or 3 big money players that can get a cheap goal. And last season in particular there was probably 8-10 biggish teams.

Last time we were in the league, Sheffield United won it but the top 10 also consisted of Southend, Fleetwood, Rochdale and Scunthorpe. I think this season might be similar, with a couple of the bigger teams being up there but a few unfancied teams in the top 10.

The bigger teams have slightly more quality than a few years ago, simply because their budgets are much bigger now. The rest of the league is much of a muchness and with a fair wind in terms of injuries and luck, you should do OK.
 

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I get your point but then Leicester won the Premier league with possession well below 50% on average. I think possession has its place if it's progressive and actually gets you up the field into dangerous areas, but this knocking it around the back for half an hour is just pointless and wastes time.

Last night, we had the 2 best chances of the game, so for all their possession of the ball, they actually did nothing with it. Crazy tactics in my view, particularly at this level where the quality is pretty poor.
Yeah we played that way with no purpose last season but this season is looking better so its good as long as there is progression with it.
You have to press them into making mistakes if they just play it around the back?
Just look at your friends Cambridge, won both games this season with a small percentage of possession and the only game they lost they had the majority of the ball!
 
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As has been said already, a massive exaggeration.

Derby weren't good but they aren't exactly relegation fodder. I quite like Paul Warne, yet Derby do look like they've just thrown together a load of experienced pros and are hoping that they'll all gel whilst hoping the quality and experience will shine.

I'm not convinced though based on 90 minutes it looks like a few supporters share a similar view...
He's not the first manager to do this and he won't be the last. Throwing together a load of experienced pros and hoping for the best. It invariably never works. You need to build a squad with a plan of how you intend to play.

Look at Bolton. They haven't got the very best player in each position in the league, but they've finely honed their squad year on year and have picked up players who suit their style and make their overall squad much stronger. Yes, they've got some real quality in there but they can also rotate the team and each replacement knows their job.

I think Derby will improve, but they've got rid of a core of really good players and I'm not sure what their long term plan is with the players they have signed.
 

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Yeah we played that way with no purpose last season but this season is looking better so its good as long as there is progression with it.
You have to press them into making mistakes if they just play it around the back?
Just look at your friends Cambridge, won both games this season with a small percentage of possession and the only game they lost they had the majority of the ball!
It was part of a purposeful tactic last night. We let them knock it around until the donkey in the middle of their defence had it, who we then pressed and he invariably gave it away. Worked a treat first half and with a proper striker we'd have been at least 1 up.

There's more than one way to skin a cat of course, and I'm hoping we play a bit more aggressive and direct this season as I don't think we have the players to play any other way.
 

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You’ve got a good team, your manager is the problem.

Can’t say I necessarily disagree to be honest with you.

We are still well short in the playing department though.
 

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Can’t say I necessarily disagree to be honest with you.

We are still well short in the playing department though.
Yeah, no doubt. From what I read online, a real lack in depth?

Admittedly its from one game, but your LB & LW were immense, CDM was great. CBs had a solid game. You've clearly got pace, power and flair - but they're just missing that gel and direction. Whilst you were sharper last night, the 3 chances you had came from a freekick (the goal) that was harsh IMO, Alfie May being gifted a chance (ironically like you gifted us the goal last season) and Blacket-Tailor producing a great run in the 1st half.

Tbf there may have been more, but the point I guess is that you lacked direction in the final 3rd.

Will be interesting, if you ever sign some players again, how you'll develop. Your first 11 (Payne excluded) is definitely top 10.
 

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Meh, silly mistake for the goal and their keeper makes a worldie. Difficult to win without a decent striker
Its what teams do in L1. We deserved the win. Our crowd was bang up for it. I was impressed with your no 21 other than him if you'd played another half an hour you still wouldn't have scored
 

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Been like this all season, you can't talk back to the officials. Everyone knows that
(Though I thought waving imaginary cards was getting punished, but not tonight)
What poor decisions went against you then? I'm curious.
 

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What's this obsession with certain teams in this league knocking it sideways and backwards constantly without actually getting anywhere? Blackpool were another example....do they just want to win possession stats? I can't abide that method of possession for possession sake.
if youd won you'd be OK with it.
 

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What poor decisions went against you then? I'm curious.
There was an imaginary card waved by one of your players (Pack?) when he claimed Trevitt dived. Other players have been carded for it.
Not complaining about what happened, just seems like there is a lot of inconsistencies.
 

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schoolboy stuff at fortress abbey stadium. how dare stevenage turn up and take 3 points off of the invincible moneyballers.


joe ironside is the best striker in the league and he's not even in the league any more. a famous signing that the rest of us can only aspire to make.
PV fan. Why don't you grow up you really are pathetic. Cambridge are a good decent club. I'm pleased they stayed up last season unlike if you'd got relegated I'd be well pleased.
 

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There was an imaginary card waved by one of your players (Pack?) when he claimed Trevitt dived. Other players have been carded for it.
Not complaining about what happened, just seems like there is a lot of inconsistencies.
Is that the best you can come up with. Was you there?
 

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He's not the first manager to do this and he won't be the last. Throwing together a load of experienced pros and hoping for the best. It invariably never works. You need to build a squad with a plan of how you intend to play.

Look at Bolton. They haven't got the very best player in each position in the league, but they've finely honed their squad year on year and have picked up players who suit their style and make their overall squad much stronger. Yes, they've got some real quality in there but they can also rotate the team and each replacement knows their job.

I think Derby will improve, but they've got rid of a core of really good players and I'm not sure what their long term plan is with the players they have signed.
Some excellent points well made.
For Bolton , we have lost our 4 best players from last year : Afolayan , Bradley, Trafford and kieren Lee.
We havent replaced them with better but overall have replaced with players that improve us as a sum of their parts .
We play 3 at the back and play across the back 3/5 a LOT . Sometimes to the frustration of the fans but its working and with worse players than we had before. We trust the process and and 3 years of improvements shows that its correct.
I agree about Derby as well , I like Paul warne and think even with a sluggish start they will be up in the top 4 at the end of the season.

Having said that i thought Barnsley & Peterboro would sink like a stone after their heartbreaking ends in the play-offs so that shows how much I know.
 

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PV fan. Why don't you grow up you really are pathetic. Cambridge are a good decent club. I'm pleased they stayed up last season unlike if you'd got relegated I'd be well pleased.
I'll be honest mate the way you put your arguments across on here you seem like a 12 year old. Well pleased.
 

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This league is tougher than I remember. or we're just no where near as good as we were when we were last comfortable in this league. Wigan were comfortably the best we've faced of the 3 teams so far, so last night was definitely a point gained.

Anyway, 3 games in the good signs are we're not conceding a lot of goals. We've conceded 1 in each game, and at least 2 of them have been really avoidable. If we can just get some better quality into the top end of the pitch we might be ok at this level.

Long way to go yet, some encouraging signs but also some concerning signs.
Na the league has no difference to league two according to some on here. They know who they are.
 

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Na the league has no difference to league two according to some on here. They know who they are.
yeah the voices in your head know who they are. weird that youve given them a potteries accent though
 

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It was part of a purposeful tactic last night. We let them knock it around until the donkey in the middle of their defence had it, who we then pressed and he invariably gave it away. Worked a treat first half and with a proper striker we'd have been at least 1 up.

There's more than one way to skin a cat of course, and I'm hoping we play a bit more aggressive and direct this season as I don't think we have the players to play any other way.
Yep we have been saying the same with all our missed chances. Good job you didn't sign Taylor as he seems to have gone downhill very quickly... :fl:

 

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Is there a deeper reason behind Bristol Rovers releasing a mug to celebrate the win or is it just because Charlton are massive ;)

I actually don't mind it much, since Castore took over the club shop we'll be lucky to get any decent merchandise
 

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There was an imaginary card waved by one of your players (Pack?) when he claimed Trevitt dived. Other players have been carded for it.
Not complaining about what happened, just seems like there is a lot of inconsistencies.
Pack is a proper shithouse so that doesnt surprise me, and that dirty cheating b*stard Morrell too. Both ex Bristol City which says it all really
 

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